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posted by [personal profile] rfunk at 02:50pm on 02/10/2004 under , , , , , ,
I'm sitting here at the Hyatt Regency Columbus at the second Ohio LinuxFest, and so far the most interesting talk was about Security-Enhanced Linux. But it wasn't interesting only for the obvious reasons; it was also interesting because it reminded me of some mildly annoying namespace clashes in technology:

When someone mentions "MAC", it could be a reference to:
- An Apple Macintosh
- Medium Access Control on an ethernet network, or the hardware address used in that protocol
- Mandatory Access Control security

Then we also have:
- eMacs, the type of Apple computers
and
- Emacs, the "extensible, customizable, self-documenting real-time display editor."


I've also learned enough about FreeBSD here that I might give that another try; the last time I tried it was in the late 90s with version 3.something.
Mood:: 'geeky' geeky
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posted by [identity profile] stega.livejournal.com at 08:06pm on 02/10/2004
come away from the dark side--FreeBSD is so sexy
 
posted by [identity profile] rfunk.livejournal.com at 10:29pm on 02/10/2004
oh, but debian has apt-get dist-upgrade.


Best part of the conference was the irc heckling during talks.
 
posted by [identity profile] stega.livejournal.com at 11:04pm on 02/10/2004
FreeBSD has the ports collection and cvsup.

 
posted by [identity profile] rfunk.livejournal.com at 02:59am on 04/10/2004
I have mixed feelings about compiling everything from source to do upgrades. On a server it requires having the compile toolchain available rather than deleted for safety, and on a desktop it requires some really long compiles, such as for KDE. (I assume cvsup speeds the update of the actual code; "cvs update" can take forever on a huge tree.)

On the other hand, it does make custom code changes a little more straightforward.

I'm still not clear on how ports are upgraded. My OpenBSD experience with them was that they're great on first installation, but a pain when anything needs to be upgraded.

Anyway, I've been meaning to ask you about FreeBSD anyway (for servers), since I know you're a fan and I trust your opinion.
 
posted by [identity profile] silicon-mayhem.livejournal.com at 02:43pm on 04/10/2004
portupgrade.
http://www.freebsddiary.org/portupgrade.php
 
posted by [identity profile] rfunk.livejournal.com at 03:09pm on 04/10/2004
Thanks, I'll take a look. Got your battery charged up again? :-)
 
posted by [identity profile] silicon-mayhem.livejournal.com at 04:03pm on 04/10/2004
Yup. I'll be smarter next time, and bring an adapter.
 
posted by [identity profile] stega.livejournal.com at 03:54am on 07/10/2004
I would run FreeBSD on a box before anything else (except for in a desktop env--as for that I like OS X) Currently I have two FreeBSD boxes that are part of the purgatory cluster. I don't actually admin them, but a third machine is due to come online if I ever get around to building a new kernel for it, and that one is going to be the main log repository/processing site. When I was in hell...errr...PGP, everything I built for them was on FreeBSD. The servers were very solid.
 
posted by [identity profile] braider.livejournal.com at 01:06am on 03/10/2004
Hey, I'll not be at Ren Faire tomorrow (Sunday) after all. If you're still in town, want to get together sometime before you head home?
 
posted by [identity profile] rfunk.livejournal.com at 03:51pm on 03/10/2004
We're planning to head to the south oval of OSU (just north of W 12th Ave, just west of the Ohio Union and College Rd) for the Columbus Pagan Pride Day event. Wanna meet us there? We can't stick around in Columbus past 4ish.

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