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posted by [personal profile] rfunk at 10:06pm on 23/03/2009
  • 06:03 The end of BSG reminded me of Good Omens. Intentional? #
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posted by [identity profile] wishesofastar.livejournal.com at 05:41pm on 24/03/2009
I haven't read good omens, but based on your comment, now I don't want to.

Ok, my main problems with BSG's finale:

1) So one guy, Lee Adama, says, "OMG, we can't have cities and any technology--bad!" and everyone just goes with it? Yeah, right. Enjoy dying of a toe infection. Plus, way to screw the people already living on the planet.

2) They're going to bang cavemen? I hope they've maintained enough technology to make lots and lots of alcohol.

3) The jump 150,00 years in the future. Yes, I get it, it's Earth. Yes, we're all supposed to think about implications of our technology. I don't need the slam-on-the-head coda to figure it out.

That is all.
 
posted by [identity profile] rfunk.livejournal.com at 07:08pm on 24/03/2009
The Good Omens reference was just a minor character thing, and nothing to do with the plot.

I was a little surprised that everyone would go along with the low-tech thing too, but ended up satisfied with how the script covered it (or at least that the script covered it). Beyond that, [livejournal.com profile] solarbird discussed the issues of everyone going along with that and the associated risks. Basically, after having the population nearly wiped out because of their technology, and after living in fear of total wipeout, they'd be happy give it all up even if it means half of the remainder die rather than all of them. The numbers and relative risks make sense in the context of what they've just experienced.

As for "banging cavemen," note that modern-day central and south America are a result of high-tech Spanish and low-tech native peoples mixing together.

And once they made it to our own prehistory, how could they ever resist pointing out that modern-day proto-Cylons exist? :-)
 
posted by [identity profile] wishesofastar.livejournal.com at 08:48pm on 24/03/2009
Basically, after having the population nearly wiped out because of their technology, and after living in fear of total wipeout, they'd be happy give it all up even if it means half of the remainder die rather than all of them.

Yes, certain aspects of their technology led to destruction, but in my mind, that's no reason to get rid of *all* technology. How would it be harmful to maintain medical equipment, for example? Are labor saving devices really so terrible? Also, how far do you need to go? Even a clay pot that carries water is a form of technology.

Yes, by all means, get rid of the weapons. But even the Bible speaks of hammering swords into ploughshares, not getting rid of the metal in the swords altogether.

As for "banging cavemen," note that modern-day central and south America are a result of high-tech Spanish and low-tech native peoples mixing together.

There's a difference between high-tech vs. low-tech and people who have not developed higher intelligence levels (they stated on the show that the people they came across were pre-verbal). I personally would be squicked by breeding with someone of exceptionally low intelligence.

And once they made it to our own prehistory, how could they ever resist pointing out that modern-day proto-Cylons exist? :-)

I thought "spirit" #6 and Baltar were angels, and therefore beyond humans/cylons.

Don't get me wrong--for the most part, I really enjoyed the finale. Seeing them finally reach Earth was incredibly gratifying. I was just venting on the few things that really irritated me.
 
posted by [identity profile] rfunk.livejournal.com at 12:22pm on 25/03/2009
"in my mind, that's no reason to get rid of *all* technology."

That's the thing. You haven't lived through what they've lived through. And the weapons weren't the source of the problems -- the labor-saving devices (robots) were. And anyway, I didn't get the impression they're getting rid of all technology; they were talking about farming and building houses, after all.

"There's a difference between high-tech vs. low-tech and people who have not developed higher intelligence levels (they stated on the show that the people they came across were pre-verbal)."

Baltar stated this after watching a few of them walk a bit from a distance. Not exactly a reliable anthropological study. And verbal ability has nothing to do with intelligence anyway.

"I thought "spirit" #6 and Baltar were angels, and therefore beyond humans/cylons."

That's not the part of the coda I was talking about (I meant the robot montage at the very end). But then, I was responding to your comment, so I guess I misunderstood what you were referring to in the coda. :-)
 
posted by [identity profile] wishesofastar.livejournal.com at 04:47pm on 25/03/2009
And verbal ability has nothing to do with intelligence anyway.

I was just reading up on this, actually. I took the notion that they were pre-verbal (again, based on a quick look, not a study) to mean that they had not yet fully developed the cerebral cortex. This would mean they lacked many higher brain functions, and therefore, were not as intelligent. However, as you say, that may not be the case.

I actually like that they featured the gynoid at the end (though that thing freaks me out).

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